Art Blakey was a motherfucker, man, I appreciate him more now than I did back then. When they started swinging, I didn't feel like swinging. The first time I ever did that shit was with Bill. I can't believe that's the way you feel about it. Chuck: Something else that reminded me of you on that recording was that his march beat is very similar to your march beat. Paul: I didn't think I played well at all. But there's the time⦠You could find one, that's what I'm saying, you could put one anywhere. So maybe I'm saying that what started out as an accident turned out to be something that became planned. (laughs) I would react differently; I mean, I'm a different person now than I was then, so I'm going to react differently. No, I don't think so. You'd probably fill twenty fuckin' volumes, it'd be an encyclopedia, just from one tune, if you start actually putting down exactly what thoughts are happening⦠you know what I mean? Could he be tapping his foot while he's reading the melody? Another time I remember reading in a Downbeat blindfold test by Lennie White, played one of my records, and he kind of put me down in a way, he said, "Boy, that drummer sounds like he's playing on tin cans."
December 30, 2011 Morning Edition and NPR Music look back at some of the musicians who died in 2011, including Amy Winehouse, Paul Motian, Cesaria Evora, Clarence Clemons and more. I said "hey, wait a minute man, this is a little different," so I wanted to get inside of that, and by doing that, then that trio became one voice. Chuck: So it sounds like the key is to get rid of any sort of deliberation. No way should you dismiss that. Definitely. I don't think so. Paul: Well, you're talking about a different period in music and a development in music. So in some instances I had to tie my hands down a little bit, you know what I mean? It's almost like I'm hearing something for the first time, it's not me! I probably saw him play over 300 times. (laughs).
You were also one of the first guys to phrase across the bar lines. I felt like "this is the peak now, and from here it's downhill." Paul: He was more into the Bebop. Here I am, I've been playing since I've been twelve years old, I'm going to be 62, and I learned something from my playing last night. Sometimes I wonder if it's a drag for the other musicians, what I'm doing, maybe I'm not as supportive of them as I should be. Chuck: You like taking the lead. That's automatic. Paul Motian. More importantly, what other modern jazz drummer, with the exception of Roy Haynes, can claim to have been a stylist and an innovator during several stages of jazz's evolution?
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And that was when I was very young. Chuck: What's the most satisfying aspect of having your own band? In place of traditional timekeeping patterns were extraordinarily detailed rhythmic phrases alternating with carefully sustained brush strokes and deliberate silences, each phrase simultaneously a response to the phrase preceding it and to Jarrett's piano improvisation, with Motian's performance slowly rising and falling in complexity from the beginning of the piece to it's end. And I always believed that, man. That's all connected. I've hit sixty now, I'm into my sixties, and I'm still peaking. All that was happening, so that's what we were playing, we weren't playing swing.
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